Re: [robocup-rescue-s] Rescue Simulation outlook

From: Alexander Kleiner <kleiner_at_informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:58:59 +0200

Hi,

The main problem is to find people willing to contribute to the league.
Currently, there is no management problem because there are no workers
(programmers).
The most active workers are Cameron and Arash. However, please note that
they are there since 2003 (I guess). Since that time there were many
people, particularly from Iran, competing in this competition. However,
since so many years, Cameron and Arash are still doing the main part of
the work on their own, even they have many other things to do. This is
also the reason why the development of the next kernel version could not
be finished in time.

I thank you for thinking about how to improve Rescue Simulation.
Therefore, I would appreciate it very much if you take the consequence
and join the team of developers in the future. If you are interested,
please contact Cameron for getting a user account at sourceforge.

Thanks,
Alex

Babak Behsaz schrieb:
> Dear Friends,
>
> I think the one of the MAIN problems of Robocup Rescue
> Simulation Project is its weak project management.
> There are many other problems that I will not address
> here, because without a well-qualified management
> team, we could not reach our desired goals.
>
> I believe even with these resources, we could have
> more desirable output. But the management team (mainly
> TC and OC, in my opinion) cannot utilize the full
> capacity of these resources.
> I have not enough evidences for this claim, but I
> think members of OC and TC may remember some instances
> of this weak management. Maybe, if some of them would
> not be such conservative, we would have a clearer view
> of what is happening in TC and OC and how they are
> deciding and managing this project! I cannot even see
> an organizational structure in TC and OC.
>
> Of course, one may say that management is not their
> main responsibilities, but I will ask so who is
> responsible for Project Management?
>
> Finally, I should mention that some of them may try
> hard for the league, but their efforts do not seem to
> be effective enough.
>
> Regards,
> Babak Behsaz
> 2003-2005 S.O.S. Team Member
>
> --- Mohammad Tavakoli Ghinani <mtavakoli_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Rescuers!
>>
>> I think the fact is the rescue simulation will be
>> vanished in
>> the near future. Believe it or not, the current
>> simulators are too far
>> from the reality. Just as an example consider Misc
>> simulator. I have
>> selected it because it has the main effect on a
>> simulation. The concepts such as
>> HP, damage or buriedness do not have any
>> justification. I don't want
>> to list all of these problems because in my opinion
>> these are not the
>> causes, these are the effects. We should have some
>> plans in the rescue
>> simulation for promoting this league. The rescue
>> simulation does not
>> need the new protocols or new kernel, it needs some
>> new and better
>> simulators, some simulators which resembles the real
>> world not the
>> fantastic and imaginary one (Consider the 3D soccer
>> simulation).
>>
>> Please consider the aim of the rescue simulation, to
>> help the people
>> in a disaster environment. Can anybody say firmly we
>> can achieve this
>> with this system? What are our priorities in the
>> rescue simulation?
>> I think we need a good plan for rescue simulation.
>> But the current
>> habit in the rescue simulation shows that each year
>> before the Robocup
>> competitions some very quick and abrupt changes are
>> made into the
>> system. We can observe it in this year even. I don't
>> know why we should have a
>> buggy and not-completed Kernel in the competitions
>> also why the teams
>> should be a test bed for the new kernel? It
>> has so many revealed bugs which mean, it still has
>> some unrevealed
>> ones. I urge everybody to think about this sentence:
>> Shouldn't we have
>> a plan for developing and promoting the rescue
>> simulation step by
>> step, just like 3D Soccer simulation? And how we can
>> reach to this
>> plan?
>> Suppose all of the KNOWN bugs fixed before the
>> competitions what
>> happen if a new bug discover during the
>> competitions. Doesn't it
>> question the whole purpose of rescue simulation. We
>> should be clear
>> the purpose of simulation this year.
>>
>> Finally remember that it is not the responsibility
>> of TCs to keep
>> alive this league we have responsibilities too.
>>
>> --
>> Mohammad Tavakoli Ghinani
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