A General Comment on Rule Proposals: DON'T ADD MORE COMPLEXITY

From: Mazda Ahmadi (mazdaah@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon 15 Dec 2003 - 07:35:26 GMT


Hi All,

The rescue system is too complicated at this point. We had alot of
complications added last year (e.g. range of firebrigade visions and water
quantity) and still in the proposals there is a tendency to add more
complexity. I understand that some people want more realistic simulations,
but from multiagent research perspective this much complexity is not
desirable.

I strongly believe we need to make this simulation "LESS REALISTIC" and thus
"LESS COMPLICATED" in order to have a more interesting research
infrastructure.

Best,
--Mazda

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Mazda Ahmadi
PhD Student
University of Texas at Austin

>From: Mohsen Izadi <roboresc_mi@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: r-resc-l@usc.edu >To: r-resc-l@usc.edu >Subject: Proposal[Part #1: Simulation Environment] >Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:39:14 -0800 (PST) > >Dear Friends, >Here's our team's proposal for 2004 competitions. >Our proposal consists of several parts. In this >e-mail I have only attached proposals regarding >the simulation environment. > >Regards, >Mohsen Izadi, >S.O.S. Member > >----------------------------------------------------- >a) Simulation Environment > >a-1) In a real situation, when an earthquake occurs, > it is usually followed by a chain of [often > weaker] earthquakes. This chain also causes > building collapse and road blockades. We propose > that the blockades and collapse simulators support > this feature for 2004 competitions. > >a-2) Kernel should generate random IDs for units in > each simulation. This means that the ID generated > for a building in each simulation should be > different from the next one. > >a-3) Agents should be able to specify exactly to which > part of a road do they want to move. In other > words agents should be able to set PositionExtra > property for a target road. > >a-4) Multiple Nozzles: There are two points about the > concept of multiple nozzles : > > 1) Is there any limits on sum of the amount of water > in an agent's nozzles in a cycle? > > - Our proposal is: Yes! There should be such a > limit. But how much? We think that if it is > possible for an agent to have 'n' nozzles of > power 'p', then it should also be possible > for it to have a single nozzle of power 'n*p'. > It means that this limit should exactly be > equal to the limit for a single nozzle. In the > real world, if we consider a tank which > contains water and the robot applies a certain > amount of pressure to the water from inside the > tank to pour a certain amount of water outside > the tank, then two facts are obvious : > > ) First, there is a limit on the amount of > pressure that the robot can apply to water > from inside to pour it out and the amount > of water pouring outside is proportional > to amount of this pressure. > > ) If we have a tank with 2 holes then because > of the fact #1, maximum sum of poured water > from these 2 holes is not more than the > maximum sum of poured water from a single > hole. > > And our proposal for the amount of water is > 1000 [m^3/cycle](Like previous years). > > 2) Is there any limits on the number of nozzles? > > - Our proposal is: No! As long as the first > limit is applied, there is no need to limit > the number of nozzles. > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. >http://photos.yahoo.com/

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